Reverend Ben Cooper's Podcast
Reverend Ben Coopers podcast, offers an inviting space for listeners to explore Christianity and spiritual growth with wisdom, humor, and a deep commitment to biblical truth. Through Rev. Ben's engaging conversations with guests, the podcast not only explores the timeless wisdom of the Bible but also tackles the pressing issues of life, faith, and hope in a way that is accessible, thought-provoking, and enriching. Whether you’re seeking spiritual nourishment, answers to life’s big questions, or simply a place to reflect on your faith, the Rev Ben podcast is a valuable resource on your journey.
In each episode, Rev. Ben guides listeners through profound theological reflections, personal stories, and practical insights drawn from the Bible and the broader Christian tradition.
Reverend Ben Cooper's Podcast
God Loves You—Even When Life Gets Tough! - (#1047 - Elim)
Join us for a powerful and uplifting episode of the Unshakable podcast as Pastor Ben Cooper explores one of the most comforting and unshakable promises in all of Scripture:
Nothing can separate us from the love of God.
Based in Romans 8, this conversation brings to life the truth that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future—nor anything else in all creation—can separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
In a time when fear, distraction, and discouragement are at an all-time high, many believers struggle to feel connected to God’s love. Society, education systems, culture, and personal hardship can lead us to believe the lie that God's love is conditional or distant. This episode directly confronts that falsehood.
Pastor Ben invites listeners into a deeper understanding of God’s unconditional grace, reminding us that no matter what we’ve done, where we’ve been, or what challenges we face, God’s love remains constant. Through biblical truth, personal reflection, and encouragement, this episode is a call to anchor your identity in God’s never-failing love.
You’ll learn:
- The power of Romans 8 in times of uncertainty
- Why nothing can separate you from God's love
- How faith can overcome fear, doubt, and cultural pressure
- Why Scripture must be your foundation in a skeptical world
- How to share God’s love boldly and confidently with others
We also explore the growing gap between education and faith, especially in a world where spiritual beliefs are often dismissed or challenged. Pastor Ben speaks directly to young people, parents, teachers, and students about the importance of staying grounded in biblical truth when culture tries to push faith to the margins.
This episode will encourage anyone feeling lost, disconnected, or doubting their place in God’s plan. His love is not based on performance—it is eternal, unshakable, and freely given through Jesus Christ.
As we close, Pastor Ben shares an invitation to draw nearer to the heart of God, to reignite your spiritual fire, and to stand confidently in the truth that you are never separated from the One who loves you most.
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Speaker 2:Wherever you are. May god strengthen you and carry you. We're going to turn into the new testament and we're going to turn into the old testament as well. So we're going to turn into the uh, the, the scriptures. We're going to turn into the epistles. We're going to turn into the book of romans, chapter 8. We're going to quickly read from romans, chapter 8.
Speaker 2:So if you are with us and wherever you are at this moment in time, can you turn to Romans, chapter 8, verse 37, verse 37, as we turn into the word of God. So Romans, chapter 8, verse 37, as we rest in the house of the Lord. Then we're going to flick all the way back, right the way down. We're going to go right the way down to the book of Genesis. We're going to go into Genesis, chapter one, and we're going to read Genesis, chapter one, just the first few verses of Genesis, chapter one, and I just pray that, wherever you are tonight, that you will feel the power of God, the love of the Holy Spirit. You know, whatever your life is looking like, however you're viewing the world at this moment, we pray that you will feel the power of God in your life and I just want to let you know that, wherever you are, there is nothing in this world that can separate you from the greatest love the world has ever seen. There is nothing in this world that can separate you from God. No human being, no demonic force, no fear, no doubt, no financial lack, no human being on earth can separate, no one on earth can take away what God has done for you and what God is about to do for you. Do you believe in miracles? Do you believe in the power of the Holy Spirit? Do you believe that all things are possible to those who believe?
Speaker 2:But there are many of us there may be many online, many in the house tonight with me that feel sometimes that there is a large separation between myself, us as Christians, and the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Sometimes we can feel that there's a distance between us because maybe our lifestyle doesn't reflect and it doesn't mirror that Christian that the church portrays, that should look like. But let me tell you this the church cannot tell us how it should be, because it's the word, because when you look at the church and you look at the mechanics of religion, it is more religious than it is spirit filled. So what we've got to do is we've got to be absorbed by the word, we've got to be completely in the word of God and I want to let you know, whoever you are tonight, wherever you are, for those in the house and for those who are online, there is nothing and there is no one that can separate you from the love of God. So let's read these scriptures, let's see how the Lord is going to lead us tonight as we just gather our thoughts, as we just read these.
Speaker 2:So we're in the book of Romans, chapter 8, verse 37, and it says Knowing all things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced, neither death nor life, nor angels, nor demons, nor the present, nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation will be able this is the text We'll be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus, our Lord. So when you look at those scriptures there, it's very basic, it's very easy. It's it's quite easy just to unravel that, just that tail end of that scripture, the word separation.
Speaker 2:You know, the world is very good at separating us and ostracizing us. Family is good at separating us. Culture is good at separating culture from culture, person to person. Church is very good. Church is very good, actually, in separating us. And how does church do that? It does that through religion and it does that through denomination and it does that through the mechanics of religion.
Speaker 2:But the bible is extremely clear that there is nothing that can separate us, me, you, whoever you are, it doesn't matter what our life looks like. There is nothing in this world that can separate you from christ. Through god, through the power of the holy spirit. There is nothing that can separate that love. There is no sin. There is nothing that we can do that can take us away from the will and the perfect will of God that is in your life. It is impossible for separation to happen once salvation has come upon each and every one of us.
Speaker 2:We know through the gospel, we know through the word of God that the Bible is very clear in the Old Testament and the New Testament that salvation comes from above. That's what it means to be born again, to be born from above, to be given this gift of salvation. So it's not by the strength of our autonomy, it's not by the strength of our will, it's not by how much money that we have around us, it's not by the notoriety, it's not by how great the Facebook and how TikTok looks and everything like that. It's not how big the church is. It doesn't matter, because salvation doesn't come from the mechanism of church. Salvation doesn't come through pastors, it doesn't come through worship. Salvation doesn't come through prayer. That's a big statement to make. Salvation doesn't come through what we understand, as in what we look at church. Salvation primarily comes from God and God alone. So salvation drops down.
Speaker 2:So if God has given you salvation and God has given you salvation and you are a bible believing believer and you are born again, spirit filled, let me just remind you that there is nothing on planet earth, there is nothing in the dark realms, there is no satanic activity, there is no spell, there is no witchcraft there. Look at what the scripture says. Let's start in verse 37 of Romans, chapter 8, and it says no in all things. We are more than conquerors. Come on, there's a banger of a scripture there, right before your very eyes. That'll get your eyelids flicking. That one Verse 37, no in all things. What does all things mean? All things mean simply all things good, the good, the bad, the ugly, the disgusted, everything. What the devil meant for harm. God will turn for good.
Speaker 2:So there is nothing in this world that can separate us from from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus. You know, even if faith was to drop out of my boots and I was to put my hands in the air and say, god, where are you, god? What are you doing? If I was to get really angry with God and fed up and frustrated and say, god, where are you in my life? That is never going to separate me from the love of God through Christ Jesus. Because there is nothing, because God knows the beginning from the end. The only place that we see separation is light and darkness, and we're going to go there in just a few moments.
Speaker 2:But I want to encourage every one of you that is in this house with me and everybody that's online with me tonight listening through radio, listening through podcasts. On the other side of the globe, there is nothing. Don't allow any human being to rob the blessings of what God has for you. Don't allow your children, your husband, your wife, your brother, your sister, your friend, your pastor, people in your church. Do not allow anyone to tell you that you ain't gonna make. It is impossible. Don't allow anybody in your life to rob your peace. Don't allow anybody in your life to tell you that the way that life looks in your lens, you are not living that Christian life, Because I would love to meet someone that is actually living like a Christian. I'm not living like a Christian. It's impossible to live like a Christian. If it was possible, we'd all be holy Joes.
Speaker 2:But the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of thy glory. But the Bible also says through the journey of life, through the journey of life, through the journey of being a Bible-believing believer, god is changing us from glory to glory, from glory to glory, from faith to faith, from faith to faith. God sees our sin before we even commit that. But he doesn't separate us from him. Do you know what? We might have not committed our biggest sin yet? There might be stuff out there that we're going to indulge in and the world will go. What are you doing? But God knows, and God has called you, and that doesn't give us the license and the insurance documentation to go. Well, it doesn't matter, I'm saved, no matter what, because that's a different thread altogether.
Speaker 2:You know, this is really critical for us as believers, because there is nothing in your life that can separate you from God. There is nothing down the track of life that can separate you from the love of God. There is nothing. No fear, no doubt, no worry. Nothing can separate you, because the Bible says very clearly in Romans, chapter 8, verse 37,. Knowing all things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced, neither death nor life, nor angels, nor demons, nor the present, nor the future, nor any powers, nothing, it says, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, nothing in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus, our Lord, to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus, our Lord.
Speaker 2:Now I'm going to touch a word that is going to make us a little bit squirmy. Suicide is on a high rate. It is climbing at such a rate. So suicide cannot separate us from the love of God. You can't akin it to murder, because that's a different thread altogether when you look at suicide, when you look at all these areas of life. Now I'm going to say something that is out there at the moment that this government is driving assisted suicide. That is from hell. That is completely different. So when you look at life, this is what the Bible says. See, this government, this government, this world, is very, very in the forefront of culling humanity. It has done it through COVID-19. It is doing it for assisted suicide. It is doing it through other measures and other means. Because it is doing that, it is doing that and that's what this government wants. But I want to let you know that there is nothing in this world that can separate you, because when you look at this scripture, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation.
Speaker 2:What is creation? Creation is everything that came out of the mouth of God, because God created absolutely everything. God created these chairs. What do you mean God? Has he got a manufacturer down the road? Is God knocking out chairs? No, god created the pulpit. God created this paper. God created everything. He created the air. Because when God spoke, what did God speak in Genesis? He spoke minerals. He spoke iron ore. He spoke rocks. He spoke oil. He spoke coal. He spoke all the fuels, all the fossils. He spoke coal. He spoke all the fuels, all the fossils. God spoke everything. God spoke the tree into existence. So when God speaks, he creates everything. So, yes, man may have manufactured something from what was in the earth, but firstly God created that so that man could create what has been created. So, christ, through the power of God, through the Holy Spirit, god has created everything around us. God has spoken everything into existence. There is nothing outside of the word of God, there is nothing sitting on a little out ledge that God doesn't know about. God spoke everything. So when you look at Lucifer, see, god spoke every angel into existence. He spoke every star into existence, every human being into existence, every fossil, every fuel, light and darkness. God spoke everything into existence.
Speaker 2:But if you are a born again, christian, spirit filled, and you are questioning your salvation, that is a good place to be. When you question, lord, am I saved? Because that's what the Bible means, work out your salvation with fear and trembling. But I want to remind you and myself that our lifestyles do not fit this holy word of God. It is impossible for the Bible-believing believer to live so holy. You can go and separate yourself and sit in the middle of the desert and not be surrounded by any worldly attributes. But what's in your mind? Because the mind and the thoughts start the process off. So you can trot yourself up to the andes, you can make yourself a little shack, you can sit in there and pray all day long, but as soon as the thought drops in, you might as well be back in sunny swanley, because it doesn't matter where you are, it is where your mind is.
Speaker 2:So our minds are what corrupt the mind is corrupt because the mind is of the world. But the bible says have the mind of christ. What do you mean? The mind of christ, a different way of thinking when you think of how the human mind works and how the brain works and the cognitive processing of stuff. And yes, we may not blaspheme out loud, we may not swear outside of our lips, but I bet you 99.9% of every one of us has said it in our head. Just because it doesn't come out of the esophagus, from the stomach, doesn't mean to say, because the Bible tells us it's all in the mind, the wasteland of the mind. So we can live this external life, showing the world oh, we're holy, oh we're wonderful, hallelujah Jesus. And then something happens and the mind triggers it.
Speaker 2:So what I want to get over before we go any further is no one on this earth that can live up to the bar that God has set, and I thank God for that, because God has set the bar so high. It's impossible to achieve that holiness in such a way, because there is only one righteous one, because we are living in a fallen world. We are in a fallen world and it doesn't give us the license to go out and to do the sin, because this is where the Holy Spirit comes in and brings us under conviction of sin. So there might be areas of our lives that we are failing in, but I cannot allow that failure to get me upset, because being upset of the failure takes me away from what God has for me. Because the Bible says when he went to the cross, all sin was now to the cross of Calvary the historical sin, the present day sin and the future sin. So this is where this scripture is talking about salvation under the fabric, under the author's hand.
Speaker 2:When you look at this, knowing all things, we are mourner and conquerors. Why are we conquerors? Because of the cross of Calvary. Why are we conquerors? Because of the cross of Calvary? Why are we conquerors? Come on church. We've got to start jumping up and down. We've got to shout in the name of Jesus. We are conquerors Even in the pit of life. We are conquerors Even when the devil's coming at us. We are conquerors Even when it looks bleak, nasty, busted and disgusted. We are conquerors because the king conquered sickness, death, disease, sin at the cross of Calvary. So what we got to remind ourselves in my worst day of my life. I'm a conqueror In the worst hour of my thinking, in the worst day on planet earth, my thinking in the worst day on planet earth. I am blessed and highly favored because nothing can separate us from the love of god through christ jesus.
Speaker 2:So when we look at this, this is talking about salvation. It is also talking clearly about separation, and we're going to just have a look at separation in just a few moments. No, in all things we are more than conquerors. Let's just remind ourselves in all these things, all these things, in all things, in everything, in every area of life, you are a conqueror. Don't allow the outside world to tear you down. Don't allow the voice of Lucifer and the actions of the fallen gods to tell you you're never going to make it. You're always going to be skint. You're always going to be falling. You're always going to be failing. Who do you think you are? The voices of Lucifer. The voice of Lucifer comes through many areas of life, trying to pull you down in every area of life, but there is nothing that can separate you Everybody online, everybody on radio tonight, everybody in the world of podcasts across the world, everyone in the Lord's house. There is nothing that can separate you from the love of God.
Speaker 2:What is the love of God? How do we find this love that is tangible? What does tangible mean? We understand? Tangible means I'm touching this poor bit, so it's tangible, it's in this realm. How can I touch this love that is tangible? Because God's love is everywhere. Touch this love that is tangible because God's love is everywhere. God is everywhere, he's omnipresent, he's omnipotent, he's in all, he's about all, he's in every fabric, he's in every air, he's in every moment, he's in every second, he is time, he is creation, he is the King of Kings, he is the Lord of Lords, and nothing in this world can separate you from that love. And what is that love? The greatest love that the Bible talks about is the love of salvation, the Savior's love. Well, where do we find this fact? Where do we find the authors. The evidence that the author has given us. We find the evidence in the Gospel of John, chapter 3, verse 16.
Speaker 2:For God so loved the world, for God so loved this love that is impossible to find, this love that is impossible to ransack and move out. It's impossible to be separated from the Father's love. No matter how you feel about yourself, you can go and beat yourself up, you can put your head on, smash your head on the wall, you can run your fingers over, you can beat yourself black and blue, but it doesn't matter how you feel about yourself. Do you realize what God says about you? Because there's many people in your life and my life are always running us down and tearing us down and trying to destroy what God has done and what God is doing, because that is the ultimate goal of Lucifer and he will use the vehicle of a human being. No way, jose. What are you talking about? Of course he will.
Speaker 2:So the Bible says greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. So what we have to understand is that this skin that we walk in this way, that we walk this earth, suit this skin that I live in, within this skin that I live, in, amongst all the organs and everything about humanity, there is the eternal God, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit living within. And the Bible says greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. So he that liveth, who is he? It is Christ. So Christ is living in you, the Holy Spirit is living in you. So it doesn't matter what you think for your noggin about yourself, it doesn't matter how you look at yourself, god doesn't look at you how you look. In our heart, our eye Look at me. We can tear ourself all over the place, the world can tear us down all over the place, but God looks at you and he says that's my daughter and that's my son and I love them so much that I've done the John 3 on them, I've done the John 3.16 on them, I've done the John 3.3 on them because I love them beyond human understanding, I love them beyond what the world says. So God is using you as a vehicle. So we're understanding that, through the scripture, that Christ, through the power of revelation, through his word, is living within you. So you are carrying through Father, son, holy Spirit. So, just as Christ, god, holy Spirit lives in us. Lucifer lives in those that are not saved. That's fact. Prove it If you look at the scripture, where you find very clearly that Christ was at the Passover table.
Speaker 2:You've heard me undo the envelope of this so many times. When you look at Christ sitting around the Passover table, he's sitting around there breaking bread and he's talking with the disciples. A couple of the disciples are on TikTok, one's on Xbox, one's just checking his emails. The other one's scrolling, watching the TV. So they're actually paying no attention to Jesus. Around the Passover table, there's only one that's paying true attention to Jesus. And who was that? Who was engaged in the conversation? Judas Iscariot. So the others are living the dream, booking themselves holidays, chatting with their mates on WhatsApp, doing this and doing that. And there was only one real conversation that was going on between Christ and Judas Iscariot.
Speaker 2:So the scripture is really clear what it says about this part of the text. Christ, he breaks bread and he looks at Judas Iscariot and he says what you're about to do, do quickly. And as he breaks bread and he puts the bread in the cup and it becomes salt, and and as he passes it over, the bible says the bible says not me. The bible says satan jumps into, enters into Judas Iscariot. That's fact, that's biblical fact. That is fact. No one can deny what the scripture says.
Speaker 2:So where God is dwelling in the John 3.3, and you are the John 3.3, just because life doesn't reflect it, just because we think the way we are, god is with you. God is with you. God is with you like you can't imagine. But there is out there and amongst your life, people that have Satan dwelling within them. It's critical that we understand this. It's biblical fact. It's critical that we understand this is biblical fact. But what we're going to remind ourselves is those, those that are filled with satan, are the ones that are coming to try to destroy your life. You know who they are living and who is living within them, the way that they treat you through respect, through conversation. So we know how a person treats me, you, whoever we are, by their actions and by their lips and by the way they are, who is living inside of them. Fact. So when we look at separation.
Speaker 2:So if you are and you are John 3, 3, you must be born again. Nicodemus says God, how can this be through Christ Jesus? Jesus says it comes from above. Born again means to be born from above. It comes down, salvation comes down. And now we need to smile because salvation sits outside of sin. So sin does not stop salvation dropping on and in us. It's beyond human understanding, it's beyond the realms of thinking, of logic, it is beyond.
Speaker 2:No wonder the atheists get themselves so crazy and so mad. You believe in a God that created the heavens and the earth? Yes, sir. You believe in a God that is a supernatural God that's invisible? Yes, I do, sir. You believe in a God that sent his son and went to the cross of Calvary? Yes, I do, sir. You believe that Jesus Christ is coming back? Yes, I do. Hallelujah. So every atheist out there, lucifer is living within them. For every Muslim that is out there, for every one that is serving Buddha, for all those that are serving foreign gods, for all those that are living outside of the framework of salvation, who is living in the skin? They're walking in Satan.
Speaker 2:But I need to remind you right now, in the name of Jesus Christ, that there is nothing in this world that can separate you. There is nothing. You can think yourself out of church. You can think yourself out of being a believer, because you can think, because thinking has a ceiling level. Thinking is just that high, but salvation elevates and arches over thinking, because thinking is about education. Education is about thinking. Education is very simple. Education is about thinking. Education is very simple. Academics, the academics. And thinking won't get you saved. You can think yourself out of everything. You can think yourself out of everything, but you can't take yourself out. You can't take yourself out because the Bible says you're grafted in and the Bible says nothing can separate you from the love of God that is in and through Christ Jesus.
Speaker 2:Now, if you're with me, if you're not yawned off and you're not nodded off or you're not watching Coronation Street online, turn to Genesis. Genesis, chapter one. Genesis, chapter one. This is where we see separation. Very interesting. This Genesis Genesis is about salvation, about new beginnings, about the beginning. Now, when you look at Genesis, chapter 1, it says in Genesis chapter 1, verse 1, in the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth. Now, the earth was formless and empty, darkness was hovering over the surface of the deep and the spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Hallelujah, jesus, verse three.
Speaker 2:If we just spend a bit of time just unpacking, unraveling, maybe a bit of expository, sermonizing, a bit of going a bit deeper down a little bit as you look at that, as you look at that verse 3, verse 3 of Genesis, chapter 1, and God said what is the first area of life, of creation? We understand, because we know what the scripture says. What did God create before anything else in the world? He created light, but darkness was already there before he spoke. So when you look at this, this text is so profound, profound. It is so outside of education, it is so far out of church, it is so far out of theological language, it is so far out of all this stuff you can only grasp it through the Holy Spirit giving you revelational knowledge. So when you look at this text and that is what is so powerful about the Word of God it's not about being educated, it's about being born again, because education will turn you over.
Speaker 2:Education can cause you problems, being educated can make you stumble, being educated can cause issues, but being wise through the word is greater than being educated. See, you don't need. There's plenty of donuts at Eton and all them colleges and all them areas. It's not about education, it's not about Harvard, it's not about Eton, it's not about Oxford, it's not about Harvard. It's not about Eton, it's not about Oxford. It's not about being educated, it's about being spiritually drawn, because you don't need education to get revelation. What you need to get revelation is not education but salvation. So when you look at the thread of all this that runs together, see, education is a stumbling block.
Speaker 2:Haven't you noticed how education uses education to drive you to a place and there are no jobs? It's not worth the effort. I know I can tell parents are doing their nut at this moment. I wouldn't even bother sending kids to school because what are they learning? Oh, I can have my bits and pieces cut off and I can be whoever I want to become.
Speaker 2:All it's interested is transgender. All it's interested is changing what, what God created. Because what God created, the devil wants to destroy it. So God created man and woman. Education wants to make everything. There's only two genders man and woman. You can't have anything else. It doesn't matter how you try and through theories, through science, you can't create what God has created Just by cutting off and sewing on doesn't make you someone else.
Speaker 2:It's very, very interesting that education actually desensitizes us to what is actually happening in the spiritual realm, because education puts a block. It brings brain fog. What is the point of school? Someone tell me what is the point of sending children to school at this moment. What is the point of education? What are they learning? What they're learning is how to worship foreign gods. What they're learning is how to be gay. What they're learning is how to be on the other side of the fence. What they're being taught is the opposite to what God has said. So what is the purpose of education? I can feel the bullets coming already to me. Why are you sending your children to school?
Speaker 2:The Bible says train a child in the way that they should go. The bible says train a child in the way that they should go. How do they do that? In the old days before, before the good old schools and the colleges, guess what they used? The torah, the bible, the new testament, bring a child up in the way that they should go. So if you bring a child up in the way that they should go, so if you bring a child up in education and you can have this cut off and you can have that sewn on, if you can become whoever you want to become, because education teaches them to be the opposite to what God has called them and created them to be.
Speaker 2:Because education brings brain fog. Brain fog becomes fear, fear becomes I'm not educated enough. My self-worth is gone. He's more educated. She's more educated than me. I can't read, I can't spell, I can't, I can't, I can't. So education will tell you you can't. But the kingdom of God goes. You can, because the Bible says just believe.
Speaker 2:There is a difference between belief and educating. Education is trying to tell you that God doesn't exist. Belief tells you that God is with you. Education will tell you that God did not create the heavens and the earth, that it was something to do with David Attenborough messing around with all the stuff that's going on. If you want to follow an atheist, follow David Attenborough. If you want to follow how not to be, follow the blue planet. If you want to follow all that and take you away from what God said, yes, we're millions of years old and we're billions and this happened, and that rock sediment and this happened over there, and actually we got it wrong. So we're going to add another million years on? Oh no, we got that wrong. We're going to pull it back. Education is changing all the time. Education changes with the season of what Lucifer is doing, but the Bible says I am the same yesterday, today and forevermore.
Speaker 2:When you look at evolution, when you look at all that stuff that goes along with that, yes, it's all about evolving. What is that about? The survival of the fittest. I will trample on whoever I'm going to trample on to get to the top of the tree. That's what evolution is the survival of the fittest. The string theory. What a crazy theory. That is the string theory, this theory, that theory, every theory.
Speaker 2:Tell me someone, tell me, why are you sending your child to school? What are they learning at school? They're learning how to be not like Jesus Christ. Even the church schools. Many church schools not long ago had transgenders come in and talk to them in the church schools. So the schools are trying to take our children away from Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:Darwin's theory is the biggest load of trash on earth. And what else is the biggest load of trash that this government has given us? Save the planet, save the planet, save the planet. You ain't got no chance of saving the planet. It's finished. Net zero this government is driving. It makes me laugh when I read about net zero, carbon neutral. You're crazy, you're off your rocker, because it's all about taxation, manipulation and control. That is what lufus is, what lucifer's work is about.
Speaker 2:So someone come back to me and say well, my child is being educated in how. What is the purpose of school in this day and age? I'm gonna crack it tonight. I know I'm gonna get it tonight and I ain't really bothered because the Bible says just believe. All things are possible to those who believe. Education has its place value, but revelation has everything. So separation is really really interesting as we look in here, because education will separate you from what God is telling you through the word. Because education tries to tell you that God does not exist. Science in many areas will try to tell you that Jesus Christ does not exist. Education will tell you that creation does not exist, that creation does not exist.
Speaker 2:When you look at Genesis, chapter 1, it is so powerful. If you want to know more about Jesus, where do we start? Do we start in Luke? Do we start in John? Do we start in Romans? Do we start in Revelation? If you want to know who this God is that you serve and who this Jesus is and who this Holy Spirit is, where do you start? Genesis, chapter 1. Because salvation is in Genesis Prove it. Okay, I'll show you Genesis, chapter 1, verse 3.
Speaker 2:And God said let there be light. What does Jesus say in the New Testament? I am the light of the world. So every time God speaks, he is speaking in the language that we understand and at the level that we are at. But beyond the level that we are at in our understanding through language, it doesn't matter if we're wired up wrong. It doesn't matter what label the world puts us over and under. When God speaks through his word, he will show you, through the power of the Holy Spirit, how to grasp the word. So in the beginning, this is what happens. God said let there be light. Jesus says I am the light of what. I am the light of of the world. What was God creating here? The world. And God said let there be light so you can draw. There is such I've forgotten now 63 000, just over, just over 63,000 cross-references, from Genesis to Revelation, revelation to Genesis, all the 66 books. It is the only book in the world that crisscrosses itself and gives you complete revelational and factual knowledge that this is fact, revelational and factual knowledge that this is fact.
Speaker 2:But education wants to tell your children that God doesn't exist. Education wants to tell your children that God did not say let there be light. Education wants to tell your children that there's no such thing as salvation. Because if this is what this is, a ph? Pharaoh system that we have.
Speaker 2:Because if you go back to the Old Testament and you look at the first lot of Israelites that went into Egypt, the first lot that became slaves, the first lot that were slaves under the hand of Pharaoh when I say thought, not thinking, they fought their way fist and hand not to be slaves because they knew it wasn't right. So the first generation that was under Pharaoh was saying we ain't gonna be slaves, we ain't gonna do it. But they got the whip cracked and they was fighting and everything going on. So then, as they had families and their children were birthed, those children became slaves, but suddenly they was deflected by their parents and that generation. So suddenly, as you go down four, five, six generations, the ones that were birthed, say, let's go a hundred years after that the area of slavery. It was their normal to be slaves. Because they was birthed into a generation that accepted before them and before you know it, before not many years, the new line of the Israelites. It was their normal to go. I'm a slave. So what we have normal to go, I'm a slave.
Speaker 2:So what we have education over the years has done the Pharaoh system. So the first lot of parents were saying God's word, god's word, god's word. Education was going no, no, no Children were birthed. This was happening. Come down a few generations Now. Suddenly the kids now are going who's Jesus? I can be anything I want to be, I can do anything I want, because education has used the Pharaoh's stand to knock out the word of God out of school.
Speaker 2:The humanist, the humanist they are very few in this nation. They are so small but they think they know everything. The humanist movement study them. When you look at the humanist movement, all they want to drive out is Jesus. They're not interested in nothing else. It's just Jesus. What does the atheist want to do? Drive out Jesus. What does education want to do? Drive out Jesus. What does the atheist want to do? Drive out Jesus. What does education want to do? Drive out Jesus. So what is the purpose of sending the children to school? No jobs, no hope. What's the purpose? No faith, no Jesus. So we have an educated band that doesn't know Jesus. So the system has knocked out Jesus by using education to teach the children he doesn't exist.
Speaker 2:But if you are a radical Bible-believing believer, you will believe Genesis, chapter 1, and have no dairy on the cake. He created and that's it. We've got to teach our children that. God said what? Let there be light. So what was God creating? At the very first few words of life? He was telling us about Jesus and you don't need education to work that out. You don't need to be a theologian to work that out, because revelation teaches you, because revelation is outside of education. Education is so small, revelation you can't measure. Education can be measured by the person. Revelation can't be measured because revelation comes from God and God can't be measured. So within God, within the word, you have so much revelation you don't need education.
Speaker 2:So what education has done? It has destroyed our children. There are more children under therapy than we've ever had before. If you look at the homework situation, they're at school what? Six, seven, eight hours, whatever that is and then the teachers and the system want to pile more on them when they get home. Because what actually education does? It floods the brain and it brings us to a place where we stop thinking spiritually. So what it does? It keeps us in a textbook A textbook written by who? By Lucifer, because Lucifer has written many textbooks that says Jesus doesn't exist. So your children are going through an educational system where they're reading about every devil under the sun and every other world religion, but when it comes to Jesus, we'll just scrub that bit out. You will not find a textbook written by man telling us that Jesus Christ is the King of kings and the Lord of lords. So education has done something to this nation. It has destroyed many children. But revelation. That's why Jesus says bring a child up in the way that they should go. I don't believe in education, I believe in revelation, because I've watched the educational system destroy children.
Speaker 2:So when you look at this scripture, time is cracking on and I understand you want to put on your pjs and get your onesie on and all that sort of stuff. When you look at this scripture, it says and God said let there be light. God is telling us that Jesus is on his way, but education will look at that and we will look at that and primarily, first understand that God said let there be light. So he's talking about the expanse in the skies and everything. But let me take us, let's go a little bit further. Should we go a little bit further and see what it says? And it says let there be light. And there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Isn't it interesting what the Bible says he is, what the good shepherd. When you look at this scripture, it is loud and clear, telling you Jesus is coming. You look at that in education, you look at that as a theologian, you look at that as a church, and straight away, and rightly so, we see creation. But beyond the word, creation is revelation and revelation reveals Jesus. So when I look at that text, I am reading about the creation of the material world that I see and the world that God has spoken. But beyond the world that God has spoken, there's a Jesus in the world that has been spoken. And God said let there be light. And there was light. God saw. What does Jesus say? You can't see the kingdom unless you're born again. And God saw the light was good.
Speaker 2:Now we come into this really interesting area of text that we could spend hours of expository reading and just undoing the fabric of this text. And it says and he separated. What did he separate? It's a separation. We've read about separation, that nothing can separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus. But here we have a separation of what Good and bad. How'd you know that? Look what the scripture says he separated light from darkness and God called the light day and he called the darkness night. And it says there was evening and there was morning and there was the first day. Now we read that with church eyes and we get creation. But read that with the Holy Spirit and you get revelation.
Speaker 2:God is telling us, before sin came into the world, in Genesis, chapter 3, I already brought a redemption plan in Education will tell you clearly that that is about creation. Revelation through the Holy Spirit and through the infinity power of God will tell you. I'm telling you that I've created the cross. Salvation Because that's what it says. He separated light from the darkness. Now science tells us you've heard me mention this a million times Science proves that darkness only exists because the absence of light. So suddenly, when light comes in, what happens to the darkness around the darkness starts to change.
Speaker 2:What does Jesus say?
Speaker 2:I am the light of the world.
Speaker 2:What does Jesus say? Don't put your light, don't let your light shine. Don't hide your light. You are driven by what. You're driven by light. You're driven by the Word. Let your light shine wherever you go. It doesn't matter how big the demonic force is. It doesn't matter how ugly the men are. It doesn't matter how big the demonic force is. It doesn't matter how ugly the men are. It doesn't matter how ugly the life situation is. If you are John 3, 3, let me tell you you're carrying light, and light does something to darkness. And what is darkness? Darkness is evil. Lucifer operates in the dark. Lucifer wants everything hidden. But Jesus says I am the light of the world Because he is God, holy Spirit, father, son, holy Spirit, the triune, godhead.
Speaker 2:So when you look at this scripture that we're in, it is not just about creation. It is in the eyes of religion, because religion doesn't understand revelation. Education doesn't understand revelation. The world doesn't understand revelation. You can only understand revelation when it is revealed. So revelation means that it is revealed from above. So you can't educate your way to salvation. You can't educate your way to understanding God. God has to reveal through the Holy Spirit down into your spirit.
Speaker 2:Have you ever read the word of God and suddenly it has come alive like never before. And you've read that scripture a thousand times and it's like living water. Out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water. Have you ever read the word? And outside of you you're feeling this fire. You're reading this word and suddenly it is coming alive. The text is dancing on the page and suddenly you've gone back to it. Hang on a minute, because this book is not an educated book. This book is beyond education, but it shows us how to be educated in the kingdom of God. It says bring the child up in the way that they should go. What does that Bible mean by that? Bring the child up in the way of the word of God.
Speaker 2:So when you look at Genesis, chapter 1, verse 3, and God said let there be light, he's telling us twofold. He's talking about the light that we understand through creation. But when you peel back the envelope and God does that for revelation and Jesus pops out on the envelope and goes I am the light of the world. And then you read a little bit more and it says and God saw that the light was good. I am the good shepherd, I am the light of the world, and he separated light from darkness. So what does it tell you? It tells you, at one point, light and darkness were in the same shade. We're in the same rhythm.
Speaker 2:What does it tell us in the old testament about lucifer? It tells us at one point that lucifer was all right because god created him and the first part of his journey. Whenever that journey started, and however that journey started and that's between God and the spoken word, and when God created the heavenly hosts, god did not create the devil. He created an angel that was so beautiful, that was so beautiful to the eye. It is beyond what we could understand. But then, suddenly, the word pride comes in, because pride changes everything. And we understand about Lucifer, the fall of Lucifer. We understand so what happened there. We see this angel that was so beautiful transformed into dark.
Speaker 2:Now the Bible says Lucifer is the father of light. The Bible says that he wanders around like a false impression of light, pression knowing who Jesus is. Lucifer's goal is to corrupt the governments of this earth and tell us that God does not exist. Worship Allah instead, worship foreign gods instead. But the world is frightened of whom? The world is frightened of Jesus Christ. That's fact, because there's no other book like the good book. There's no other king, like the only king. There is nothing else on heaven and earth like this God that we serve. He is the great I am. He is worthy of all praise. He is the king of kings and the Lord of lords. He is your God and he is your savior, wherever you are at this moment in time, I've got to bring this to some form of a holding place. I pray that wherever your children go to school, they are being taught Jesus. I pray that wherever your children are at university, they know who Jesus Christ is. I pray that wherever you take your children and wherever your children are, they are being told that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. I pray, wherever you are, that your children will know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
Speaker 2:So as you look in the book of Genesis, as you look really, really clearly, it tells us something really clear there. And God said let there be light. And there was light. And God saw that the light was good and he separated light from darkness, and he separated light from darkness and he separated light from darkness. Salvation. Jesus went to the cross as the light of the world, as the Savior, the King of Kings and the Lord of lords, I pray that, wherever you are in Jesus name, that you will understand that there is nothing that can separate you from the love of God.
Speaker 2:We're coming to the table. I hope you got sound. I hope you can hear. I've just seen a text come up on the monitor there. I hope you can hear us. I pray that wherever you are across the world at this moment, I pray that God will reveal himself to you in such a powerful way. But as we break bread together, as we take time out, as we spend time in the word of God, as we just say, come Holy Spirit, refresh us and restore us, I pray that, wherever you are, I just ask god that he will strengthen you and keep you and continue to reveal his word to you.
Speaker 2:So genesis, chapter one, as we come to the table, is a very important text. Genesis, chapter one, from verse 1, it says Now, that is telling me something very clear. It's telling me that the gospel of John is already in. Because the gospel of John, chapter 1, says something very powerful In the beginning. In the beginning, god. In the beginning, god. Genesis, chapter 1. In the beginning, god. In the beginning, god, genesis, chapter 1. In the beginning God, and then just to recap a moment as we come to the table. And God said let there be light. And there was light. And God saw that the light was good. He separated light from darkness. See, there's a separation, but through that separation God was creating salvation, he was preparing humanity right at the point of the word of God, genesis 1, verse 1. Through all the way, through Salvation.
Speaker 2:If you want to know who Jesus Christ is, study Genesis. If you want to know what the cross is about, study Genesis. If you want to understand creation, obviously study Genesis. If you want to know who the Holy Spirit is, if you want to know who the Holy Spirit is, study Genesis. If you want to know who God is, genesis is, as it says, the beginning, because that's the beginning of understanding. See, the churches need to preach Genesis. If we was to preach Genesis and to really get into Genesis, we would have a greater understanding of salvation. But all the church wants to shout about is God is love, god is love, god is love. And we don't know who this God is. You only know who God is when you have revelation, when the church is preaching not so much Gospels but Genesis, because Genesis is everything. It is the foundation of the rest of the 65 books that we got in, the rest of the Word of God. So Genesis is the foundation to creation, revelation, sovereignty, grace, redemption, hope, grace, mercy, power, forgiveness. Because Genesis is revelation, revelation is salvation, salvation is God, salvation is God. If you want to grow, if you want to move forward in your faith, take Genesis and study Genesis.
Speaker 2:We're coming to the table. Wherever you are with us tonight, grab yourself some bread, grab yourself a bit of grape juice, whatever you've got there, we're going to take a moment. We're going to take a moment. We're going to come to the table right now, in the name of Jesus. Father, as we come to you, father, as we come to you in the name of Jesus, we thank you for revelation.
Speaker 2:So, lord, will you reveal yourself to every one of us tonight? Will you reveal yourself like never before? Father, will you reveal the Word? I pray, lord, that you will reveal the Holy Word of God to each and every one of us. In the name of Jesus, I pray, lord, that you will reveal more of the Holy Spirit to us tonight. Lord, I pray that you will reveal the power of creation. So, lord, as I break bread tonight. I thank you that this bread symbolizes the body of Christ and Jesus Christ was at the beginning of creation. So, father, I thank you for salvation that was at creation. Bless this bread, lord, in Jesus' name, amen. Father, as I come to the cross tonight, I pray that you will reveal your word to me and to everybody in the house and to everybody across the world, that you will reveal everything. And, lord, I pray for such an outpouring of your spirit Because, lord, I want you to reveal yourself to every one of us, whatever color, whatever creed, whatever way, because God will reveal himself.
Speaker 2:And, lord, I pray for our children at school. I pray for this educational system that is dangerous to Christianity. I pray, dear God, that our children will know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. I pray for every child that is going to school. I pray for every student in education. I pray that they will have Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. And whatever the school teaches, whatever education teaches, it doesn't land in a way that it will try to remove the power of revelation from it. So, lord, we pray for every child as we come to take this cup now, and we pray for every child that is and that has parents that are serving Lucifer. I pray, lord, for every child, of every color, of every tribe, of every tongue, that they will know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. And every school will tell every child that Jesus Christ is the saviour of the world. So cleanse us from the crown of our head to the sole of our feet, amen, amen.
Speaker 2:Wherever you are across this world, I would ask yourself this simple question why is my child going to school? What are they getting from education? What is the purpose? Is it Christ-centered? Is it all about Jesus, or is it about the world and foreign gods? What is education doing to the children in this nation? Lord, I pray again for every child in every home, in every child, in every home, in every religion. I pray that they will wake up knowing Jesus Christ as their Saviour. Come, holy Spirit, will you bring your glory In Jesus' precious name, amen. God bless every one of you, wherever you are across the world tonight, and I pray that you will feel the love of God, the power of the Holy Spirit. Thank you for joining us across the world of radio, through the world of visualization, through the streaming. I thank you to everyone that is back listening to these podcasts. I pray that, wherever you are, that you won't get caught up in education, but you will pray a prayer that says this Lord, reveal yourself to me In Jesus' name, amen.
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