Reverend Ben Cooper's Podcast
Reverend Ben Coopers podcast, offers an inviting space for listeners to explore Christianity and spiritual growth with wisdom, humor, and a deep commitment to biblical truth. Through Rev. Ben's engaging conversations with guests, the podcast not only explores the timeless wisdom of the Bible but also tackles the pressing issues of life, faith, and hope in a way that is accessible, thought-provoking, and enriching. Whether you’re seeking spiritual nourishment, answers to life’s big questions, or simply a place to reflect on your faith, the Rev Ben podcast is a valuable resource on your journey.
In each episode, Rev. Ben guides listeners through profound theological reflections, personal stories, and practical insights drawn from the Bible and the broader Christian tradition.
Reverend Ben Cooper's Podcast
Unveiling Global Chaos: Biblical Prophecies, Jewish Feasts, and the Divine Plan (#900 - Elim)
"Can you see the divine plan behind today’s global chaos? Join Reverend Ben Cooper and Reverend Brian Greenaway as they explore current events through a biblical lens. From the reign of King Charles III to the shifts in UK politics under Prime Minister Liz Truss, we'll discuss how these moments might point to the end times, alongside Israel’s prophetic role in world events.
Delve into the spiritual significance of the Jewish autumn feasts—Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, and Sukkot—and their ties to the second coming of Jesus Christ. Explore the biblical symbolism of the number seven in today’s world, from the passing of Queen Elizabeth II to geopolitical tensions in the Middle East. Tune in for insights that strengthen your faith and guide you through these transformative times. With perspectives from Maoz Israel Ministry, this podcast offers deep spiritual insights on prophecy, Israel, and the Christian faith’s relevance in a rapidly changing world."
Can you see the divine plan behind today’s global chaos? Join Reverend Ben Cooper and Reverend Brian Greenaway as they offer a thought-provoking exploration of current events through a biblical lens. We'll guide you through the dramatic changes in the UK, from the transition to King Charles III to the financial shifts under Prime Minister Liz Truss. Hear how these events might just be markers in the timeline heading towards the end times, reflecting on the unshakeable faithfulness of God and the prophetic role of Israel as a global indicator.
Curious about the deeper connections between Jewish traditions and Christian theology? Discover the profound significance of the Jewish autumn feasts—Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, and Sukkot—and their links to the second coming of Jesus. We’ll discuss the spiritual implications of these feasts, from the trumpet sounds of Jesus's return to the idea of God dwelling among humanity. Let us guide you through these ancient practices and their relevance to modern-day believers, helping to strengthen your faith amidst uncertainty.
What’s the spiritual significance of the number seven in today’s world? Consider the intriguing parallels between biblical symbolism and recent global events, like the passing of Queen Elizabeth II and the political upheavals in the UK. We’ll also delve into the geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, examining Israel’s prophetic role and the challenges it faces. With insights from our ministry, Maoz Israel, we invite you to connect with these transformative discussions and find spiritual peace as we navigate these pivotal times together.
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"Discover the Christian End Times Podcast that delves into biblical interpretation and explores the prophetic signs pointing to the Second Coming of Jesus. Tune in for Christian prophecy insights that connect ancient scripture with today's world, including Jewish-Christian connections and the ongoing Israel in prophecy. Our discussions cover the intersection of faith in crisis, Christian geopolitics, and how current events align with the revelation podcast you’ve been waiting for. Stay informed with a deep dive into how faith and prophecy intersect in these transformative times."
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Speaker 1:We thank you so much for sharing everything that we do here. Have a beautiful day, you lovely people. Wherever you are today, keep safe, keep pressing, but keep listening. Bye, good afternoon and welcome. Thank you so much for joining us here. Obviously, it is what is the time. We are 421. We're 421. According to the laptop 421.
Speaker 1:Good afternoon, wherever you are across the earth. We thank you so much for joining us today. You are joining myself, reverend Ben Cooper and Reverendend brian greenaway as we get back in. We have missed him. He is back here.
Speaker 1:He's a very, very busy, busy, busy man for, uh, the ministry and uh, thank god that we got him for these 45 minutes, as he just gives us a recap, and I know there's a few of you that want to uh get a few more of these uh podcasts out there regarding maoz, and we will do, but we've got Brian with us and we're just going to spend 45 minutes on a recap, looking at what we've come through, what's going through, what's happening in the world of Israel through the biblical viewpoint. So welcome everybody. You can find us on Buzzsprout, spotify, iheartradio and so many other platforms, and we thank you so much for joining us. So Spotify, iheartradio and so many other platforms, and we thank you so much for joining us. So, wherever you are today, never give up. There's always hope. So we're in, brian. It's great to see you again.
Speaker 2:Good to be here, Ben.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, my friend, for coming back. It's been a long time, hasn't it?
Speaker 2:It has been, yeah, quite a few weeks.
Speaker 1:We've been. Really, we had a good recap, didn't we? And I think that's very, very relevant all the time to have a recap and to go back over things. But we're just in a very interesting position within the UK, aren't we? Obviously, with that great servant, our queen has gone quite a number of weeks. The king is in place. Very interesting you were talking about some figures and some interesting stuff that's going on around the finance markets. We've got Liz Trust. Today We've got the government. You know everything happening breaking out. It's a great time to be alive, I think.
Speaker 2:It is. Yeah, it certainly is. And, as believers in Jesus, we need to keep looking up and not have the fear, because God says he'll never leave us, never forsake us, he'll always be with us. And so we can trust that, can't we?
Speaker 1:We can.
Speaker 2:There's a really shaking the earth. It's not just the UK, and I think sometimes we can be a bit focused, can't we? We watch the news and we think it's just us we do. Yeah, you're right. It's global isn't it Economically, socially?
Speaker 1:I was listening to a guy yesterday another area I work in and he said for the first time in history, the capital market, the big area of funding, has almost frozen for a while because they're so tender of what's happening. There's a bit of rumbles of like what's going on. So we are in a very tender place globally, aren't we?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1:The economy, the famines, the wars, the rumours of wars. Everything we are talking about and seeing is so clear in the Bible. So Israel is a great place to look at, isn't it?
Speaker 2:It is, yeah, because that's one of our indicators, isn't it? It's one of our indicators. Often the Christian church has said through history it's Jesus coming back. Peter made it clear, second peter, chapter three, and he said that in the last days there'll be scoffers saying whereas he's coming, etc. Um, but we know the faithfulness of god. You know, in that scripture, in particular, in that that chapter, you know peter is saying you know that look, god is faithful, he intervened in history before. He talks about creation. Then he talks about the flood, yeah, and he says, look, god intervened in history before and he talks about creation.
Speaker 2:Then he talks about the flood and he says, look, god intervened in history before he's going to intervene again. He's going to come back and we can be sure that, as he created the earth, as he flooded the earth in judgement before that, he will return one day.
Speaker 1:Brilliant stuff we can be assured by that?
Speaker 1:most definitely, I don't know about you, but I feel, really I feel quite comfortable at peace, because I've suddenly hit a point in my own personal journey with Christ that this is meant to be. This is nothing of the enemy trying to, you know, it is scripture. So where we sit, as Christ said, watch out for the signals, and the signs and the points that will indicate there's a clear indicator and I think that eyes are being opened. You look at the government, you look at the finances, you look at even education, even look at the. Would you say also that and that's a big topic would you say that we're almost in that, falling away of the church? Would you say that there is a stripping back? What is going on?
Speaker 2:Well, it's an interesting subject, isn't it? And I think you know what people need to realise, don't they? Is history is Israel-centric. Yes, now, that's not a popular thing to say no. It's not because Israel is better, but because God has set things up that way, hasn't he? So, when you look at global politics and geopolitical issues, god made these covenants with Israel, and so that affects history, affects world history, yeah, and even more so now as we approach the lord's return. Now, even more so.
Speaker 2:So I think it's quite interesting that this trust said at the conservative party conference a couple of weeks ago, when there was um, the, the conservative friends of israel, she said I'm a huge zionist. And everybody thought what? You know, the prime minister going to that, what is a fringe meeting, in a way, with lots of other senior ministers, and saying I'm a huge zionist and we're going to move, we're thinking of moving the embassy to jerusalem. And then there was another minister saying yeah, we've got some land, let's do it. And really, you know that puts her in the crosshairs of the enemy because he doesn't like the promises to israel. And we're, the prime minister, a very you know, it's not any prime minister. The uk is quite an influential country it is very when she says um it doesn't say, yeah, I have.
Speaker 2:I have sympathy with she.
Speaker 1:It wasn't holding back in any way, it was a very right you're now in the target.
Speaker 2:You are now going to be targeted. Now, you said that now, today, today is the day that she's resigned um, wow, what a statement of to to say from a british prime minister about. Yeah, to say that sort of thing, it's um and wow that's.
Speaker 1:I've got to be honest. I take my hat off to her you know, you know what wow lord, what, what is going on?
Speaker 2:but we're seeing such a changing of the guards we are, yeah, who what's going to happen next, or it's?
Speaker 1:like watching this. This show unfold, isn't it? It's like watching the uk reality program, you know, and uh, so, brian, it's really good to have you with us today. So we have, we are in or we've come from and we're going to about the feast when do we sit? What is the relevance of the feasts?
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, well, it's quite interesting. We've just passed, of course, the autumn feasts.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So just a recap for those who are new maybe, to that there are seven major feasts or festivals in the Bible. They're in Leviticus 23 and of course they appear elsewhere. They're summarized in leviticus 23, and so you've got a passover, and then you've got unleavened bread and you've got first fruits, which are all at the same time.
Speaker 2:So easter, passover time, which fulfilled by jesus is, is sinless death, unleavened bread, sinless death and resurrection is the fulfillment of passover and the first fruits. And so, all at once, they happened within a week, just about a week, those three feasts, and he fulfilled them in that time as well, when the three feasts appeared. And then there was shavuot, or pentecost, which is the pouring out of the holy spirit. When the church was created in a certain sense, wasn't it because the holy spirit came upon the church?
Speaker 2:So Jesus said I'm going away. And they said we don't want you to go away, and he said it's better because I'll send another, because the Holy Spirit came, poured out his Holy Spirit on those disciples with the birth of the church 2,000 years ago and commissioned the church into the harvest. And of course, these feasts all have an agricultural meaning as well. You know, are all have an agricultural meaning as well. You know, unleavened bread, yes, yeah, that's the thing that shavuot is at first, fruits of the harvest. So they parallel. And so we had pentecost and the church was commissioned to be the vehicle for the kingdom of god, for the extension of the gospel. And it still is now. That commission 2 000 years ago is still applicable to believers and the church today.
Speaker 2:But the interesting thing is, if we follow so, we've got those seven feasts and then we come to the autumn feast. So we have Yom Teruah, which is the feast of trumpets, Then we have Yom Kippur, the day of atonement, and then we have tabernacles, or the Sukkot as we call it in Hebrew. So we have the next three feasts which, again, like the earlier feasts, are together. They're all sort of quickly, one after the other. There's one, then there's a gap of 10 days, 10 days of awe. Then, as soon as Yom Kippur ends, a couple of days later, we have the Feast of Tabernacles. So you see that pattern three spring feasts, one feast in the summer and three in the autumn. Now the interesting thing about that feast and we just last week we just finished the Feast of Tabernacles is that this speaks about the second coming of Jesus. You know the sound of the?
Speaker 1:trumpet. The sound of the trumpet.
Speaker 2:Which we see in the Old Testament, but also Paul makes it very clear in others that Jesus will return at the sound of the trumpet. So there's a parallel there with the feast of trumpets and the return of Jesus. So it's very significant. And then atonement speaks of his atoning death, of toning death, particularly with the focus on the jewish people, because you know that that is about their forgiveness. Atonement, um, and then tabernacles is about him, god tabernacling with us. So you get the coming down of john it says and uh the work.
Speaker 2:The word became flesh and tabernacled, so the greek word is skina. Yeah, and that means tabernacle so jesus tabernacled. So the Greek word is skina, yeah, and that means tabernacle. So Jesus tabernacled with us. People saw him, he was physically, he was physically able to see.
Speaker 1:That's an interesting word. You said tabernacle.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because one John, obviously one John, chapter one. It says and the word became flesh and the NIV says made his dwelling among us. But the became flesh and the niv says made his dwelling among us. But the correct terminology. I've never heard what you presented it like before. I've never read that way he tabernacle. Because that changes to me.
Speaker 1:That makes that stronger, that's yeah, dwelling, we get that, we understand, it's fine but but the tabernacle, now I can relate that, yeah, I can relate that to the feast. I've made a connection. So I've learned something. They're very important. So that's interesting that he came down and he tabernacled.
Speaker 2:That's right. Yeah, tabernacled, so that not only talks about the past. You know Jesus tabernacling or dwelling amongst us. But also it looks at things of revelation, and right at the end of the book we know the end of the story. The end of the book it says that God tabernacled with them.
Speaker 1:So that word again, tabernacle, it appears. Yeah, so we're going to see.
Speaker 2:God, us who are believers are going to see God physically at the end, right at the end of time, when it says that they don't need the light of the sun or the moon Wow, because he will be their God, he will tabernacle with them.
Speaker 2:Same word, so, in the same way that the disciples saw Jesus in the flesh and he says, john says in 1 John, that which we have handled concerning the word of life, we've handled the word, we handled God in a way that's amazing, isn't it? That's enormous. We had first physical contact with God through his son Jesus and you know he's God, of course and contact with God through his son Jesus, and you know he's got a horse. And then, when we come to revelation, we're going to have that same experience. Jesus is going to come back, not as meek and lowly, he will come back as judge, as judge, and then he will, you know, for a thousand years he'll reign and then, eventually, when things have been sorted out, the devil has finally been judged and thrown into, then God will come down himself and dwell with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you think of the way you just presented that. God himself. So Christ is coming back but then. God will make himself known.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we will see him and it will be quite an amazing time.
Speaker 1:I know you're in a different world of what I am referring to, ministry, but I don't actually, and I haven't heard for such a long time end time preaching, which is quite sad, isn't it? Because I think if end time preaching had been preached quite strongly for a number of years now, I don't think that we'd be so like Christians, as in rabbits in the headlights of thinking what is going on, when, actually, if we'd been prepared for the signals and the signs, as Jesus said, and been strengthened in the biblical times in which we live, I think that a lot, maybe, maybe I've got this wrong, but the possibility that many of us Christians, believers, would be maybe just a bit stronger, as in like what we see is to be expected and how we feel, because there's a strange atmosphere and is there something wrong with me?
Speaker 1:Why am I not getting this right? There's a lot of unrest and uncertainty and we see these big mechanical movements, the governments and finance markets clogging and stopping, and when the human eye catches that and the human ear catches that, it does put a shudder through you and you think actually what he's always about, so end times, that book of Revelation, and about you know, I think there's a time now where the church needs to prepare and get this. So what you're bringing today, you'd say. I've learned something today just from that one word alone. Now that has changed and connected me more to the Old Testament. So wording and the language in which we speak is very important, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So if we're, not careful.
Speaker 1:We spoke about the word Easter, didn't we Do you?
Speaker 2:remember yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Now I don't use that word anymore. I use the word Passover. Yeah, yeah, so that has really changed, but for all my ministry, everything has been it's Easter, it's Easter, it's Easter. But that's a world, worldly language and you've got to be very careful because you've got to be how the world uses that and how I would use that.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that's key, isn't it? Because I think we don't end time. Stuff doesn't need to be controversial.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't. It doesn't because it's quite straightforward.
Speaker 2:It's very People can sometimes be really caught up in. You know this kind of horse and that, and you know, then it causes division. Now, my belief is that eschatology end times should unite us, not divide us, and so, when we Correct, we should be able to celebrate the fact that Jesus is returning, celebrate the fact that he will put things right.
Speaker 1:Amen.
Speaker 2:Wipe away every tear. I mean no more dying, no more crying, all that stuff, and that should be something to celebrate, not to argue about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right. Yeah, the four horses God doesn't design it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, god doesn't. It didn't give us that so we could argue over it. No, he gave it to give us hope and give us a new night.
Speaker 1:It's interesting what you said. He hasn't given us that much detail as in, but people like to over-engineer of the actual process. God said Christ is coming back. That's the given, that's enough.
Speaker 2:And we don't have to know everything.
Speaker 1:No, and we don't know everything.
Speaker 2:I mean does anybody anywhere know everything? Only God does.
Speaker 1:Well, I know a few people think that they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know a few people do, but you don't, you're not going to, and I'm Brian and my limited mental capacity compared with him is not even worth measuring. And I'm quite happy because that's faith, isn't it? Because we're supposed to be people of faith.
Speaker 1:Jesus, and that's been a lot on my heart lately. He said just believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:And I think you're right in what we're saying. I am just a human, I am Ben, I am Brian, I believe and I don't understand. I understand I can't never understand, so you're not gonna understand but it's not for us to get ourselves into this theological depth, and I think sometimes theology can take us down a rabbit hole that confuses us more than actually just going yeah, I'm just gonna believe, yeah, and be ready.
Speaker 1:so the signs in which we are today we look at israel, we look at the uk government, we look at america, we look at asia, we look at russia, we look at ukraine, the wars, everything. There is nothing that has caught god by surprise. So when we were talking earlier about, uh, uh, that beautiful servant, uh, the queen, now we have the king, and he was talking about figures and numbers and dates and the relevance of the number seven, you said about seven, as in feasts, we know that seven is a biblical number. Sure, now I'm going to say something and probably laugh. Was that by chance that there was seven feasts? Is there any reference to why is there seven? Because seven, as we know, is that number that is, oh, number seven number of completion?
Speaker 2:it is, yeah, the seven churches yeah seven, the seven spirits of god in the old testament there, seven is is a number that you need to look out for, not that you get carried away by because then you get into numerology and you go too far, too far just try to dive in when they're just enjoying. And now the number is significant. I mean there was. I mean it's quite interesting, isn't it, that our queen died in her 17th year yeah, with her reign and I mean I don't go in for a lot of these things, but it is.
Speaker 2:Some may have heard of the Shemitah year, which is like a j Jubilee year in a way. Every seven years the land should be left in the Old Testament, should be left fallow To rest, to rest like a Sabbath year that sort of thing which Israel never did.
Speaker 2:And so after they had racked up many, many years of not doing the Jubilee, amongst other stuff, god sent them into exile and the land had rest many Sabbaths rest. You see, now we're not a covenant nation. The UK is not a covenant nation like Israel. It doesn't have a covenant specifically with God. That is set out in the earlier Testament. But I found it quite interesting that you know we lost our queen in the 70th year and although she'd been ill, it was a surprise, wasn't it? To the nation.
Speaker 1:It was a very big surprise. It was a shock.
Speaker 2:But I noticed that after she'd passed away they had this thing in place called Operation London Bridge. It had been planned for many years. That said that she had to be buried within 10 days of her death, but it was actually 11 days. Because they moved it to the Monday for some other reason, probably because it works better.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but on that day when the funeral took place, the king had asked earlier that the royal family observed seven days of mourning and that seven days of mourning ended at the end of ended at rosh hashanah, when the jewish ended at that so yeah, so that is uh the year before.
Speaker 2:So it was uh five, seven, eight two. That was a year. So the seven days of mourning ended at the end of the Jewish New Year. The calendar, I do think it's just. That's just like To me. I'm not trying to dig too deep. No no, it's quite interesting, it's quite significant. Those sevens fit in with what's happening.
Speaker 1:The sevens fit in with what's happening, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:The Shemitah year that's called the Sh and also.
Speaker 1:It can be intriguing, can't it? The mystery, yeah, the mystery behind everything. But, as you said about the seven, things are happening very quickly. Sure, you know, there's a lot of stuff happening. We felt like the world was going to end I did in COVID times and there's something that's gone out the door to a degree. Yeah, yeah, we've got finance crack, we've got. So. Everything is so quick, isn't it? We're seeing things week on week, day on day, as we come back to the Queen. She was shaking hands with Liz Truss that day, and then, one or two days Later, suddenly we're hearing the news. Then suddenly Boris and Liz swap over, and then the King Now today, liz Truss has resigned 44 days later 44 days later.
Speaker 1:So you're looking at this. There's so much happening in British government that we've never seen before, no, never. So this is a time for us to really look at what Christ says At the end times, look at the signal points, the breaking downs, the signs in the skies, the heavens above. So these feasts and these sevens, it all goes together somewhere in the puzzle, in the mystery. It is a mystery. If it wasn't a mystery, it wouldn't be God. He has to reveal this stuff. And I believe we are living in very powerful spiritual times.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's another very significant thing, is that, um, I remember seeing a documentary with the queen a couple years back and the person was interviewing her and at that time they brought out St Edmund's crown I think it's called the state crown that sat upon her.
Speaker 1:Okay, coffee.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I mean this crown goes back a long time. I think it was found in Edward the Confessor's coffin, wow, and they took it out and probably it's been tidied up a bit A bit polished, but that is the actual crown, so it goes back a long way.
Speaker 2:Now the crown was brought out by the crown jeweller wearing his gloves, and the interviewer moved a little bit closer. She went oh no, he said you can't touch it. She said touch the crown, except for me. Wow and um. So I had a little bit of research and the crown jeweler can touch it with gloves and apparently the archbishop canterbury can touch it as well, because he has to put it on. Put it on the monarch's head, yes, um, but I noticed that the internment, which apparently, if you didn't record it, you can't see now, though the palace asked certain elements of the funeral because it was very personal can never be seen again on public television.
Speaker 2:And that was the service in St George's Chapel. Because, yeah, obviously the king lost his mother. He was very sad and it shouldn't be something people watch over and over again. So that was a once in a lifetime it was, but the thing that I noticed was so you had the breaking of the staff.
Speaker 1:Yes, very interesting it wasn't violent, it was just uncooked.
Speaker 2:And then they took the crown and the orb and the scepter off of the coffin and they gave it to the I think it's the rector, the dean of St George's Chapel, and he took it with his bare hands and I said to Elizabeth, my wife, I said he's just taken it with his hands, I thought no one was allowed to touch it and he took them from the jeweler and he put them onto the church and I thought isn't that interesting, because what we've seen now is it just shows you the responsibility of the church, because the church has now taken those emblems of office and of course the orb with the cross is supposed to represent christianity all over the world. So now the church holds on to those.
Speaker 2:The church has made symbols of office. Yeah, they're're symbols, but until they crown the king. So now the church has a responsibility. I believe a transfer responsibility between the death of our monarch and the funeral and the crowning of the king is now going to be in May. So now the church. Now many of our listeners, like myself, may not be church of England. That's fair enough, and I don't have any connections at all with the Church of England.
Speaker 2:But nonetheless they are the state church. Whether you agree with that or not, it's up to you. But they have a responsibility, don't they?
Speaker 1:They're connected to our state. Yeah, we can't get away from that. There's a responsibility.
Speaker 2:They're part of the state, they're part of that of the royals, until it's given to them, so they carry that responsibility. To me, it spoke of saying church guys, we need to wake up, we need to pray for those in authority.
Speaker 1:We do. I don't think we do that enough. I don't think we do that enough. We need to pray for leaders.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know very significant times, very powerful, and you are right, the transferring. And I believe I don't know if it's just me, but I don't know if anyone else picks this up that when our queen was taken home, the atmosphere was very different and it feels as if we've gone into a very unusual time. Was she that anointed Because she had a strong faith? Did God put her here to keep us, to protect us, to guard us? Whatever way you look at that, I still can't get away that. I feel very different. Now that servant, that servant, the defender of the faith, has been taken home, it feels as if I wouldn't say protection has gone, because that's making me sound like I'm looking at her as a protector. But what she represented and what the authority that she carried and who she was and the servant heart she had, very godly lady, it feels as if there's been a bit of an opening of the of, of, of an, of a gateway, of, of. We feel more vulnerable, feel a bit wider. It feels like we're going through a breathing move.
Speaker 1:Because God never leaves us nor forsakes us. I'm not putting any weight on a person, but when you look at what we're looking at and the biblical times, it feels as if we're very vulnerable. We're very, very touchy With the Queen. You looked at her. There was stability, she was strong, she was a fantastic leader. Now, when certain leaders are extracted and God calls them Christian leaders, there is a significant impact. We see that through the Bible, don't we? When leaders were taken, martyred, they was taken. There was a lot of change. So we are experiencing I don't like to use the word atmosphere because I'm frightened that people might think that I'm using a terminology that is hyper-churchy but there's a feeling, there's an undercurrent, there is a rumbling of what's next yeah, an uneasiness An uneasiness.
Speaker 1:So what have you got there regarding the feasts and everything that's going on, and the numbers and the queen and Liz Trust and what's happening in Israel? We are living in really powerful times. We are, yeah, I feel blessed to be alive, to see what I'm seeing. So what's next on the table do we have in front of you? That is very relevant for us to look at, to see where we sit the church, israel. What's the latest? And you're going back to Israel in a few weeks?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, a couple of weeks on, we'll be in Israel again. Yeah, back there, which is good, I think. One thing that is interesting is, you know, in John, chapter 4, there's a couple of things actually. John, chapter 4, jesus says this is the chapter where he talks about the.
Speaker 2:Samaritan woman and his disciples come back and find him talking to her, and then it moves on to a general discussion with his disciples about the harvest, and you know, and he says, you know, do you not say there's still four months, and then comes the harvest. Bold, I say to you, lift up your eyes, uh, to the fields that already white.
Speaker 2:for harvest he says to them um and um. I mean I I've not heard anybody say this, but I thought it's quite interesting that verse, because there are four months between the feast of pentecost pouring out of the holy spirit yeah and the feast of trumpets, so that's four months.
Speaker 2:So in the agricultural cycle they are the four months of the harvest, and what would happen in israel in the times of jesus and before was that people would harvest during this time different crops and then when the feast of trumpets came and the trumpet would sound, it would be the end of the harvest time during the harvesting. And so I hope you know listeners can hear the parallel there that as a as the church generally, because obviously the feasts are a seven cycle during a whole year. However, the the feasts, if you like, the festivals they speak of the pattern of redemption, love that we are currently between the feast of pentecost.
Speaker 1:They speak of the pattern of redemption.
Speaker 2:Love that word redemption. So we are currently between the Feast of Pentecost, the commissioning of the church, and the Feast of Trumpets, where the church says, where the Lord says you finished your work, the Lord is coming back, the harvest is over, it's time to stop harvesting because the Lord of the harvest is here and so we. If you look at the Feast as a whole cycle of world history, we are between those two feasts, we're in the four months cycle and that.
Speaker 1:so we're in that, and the queen has been called home within the four months, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, everything from the day of Pentecost to now 2,000 years ago to when the Lord returns, is that four month period, if you like?
Speaker 1:You're referring to the word redemption as well?
Speaker 2:yeah, the pattern of redemption the pattern of redemption.
Speaker 1:So it's all very significant of everything that's happening and how strong and powerful the biblical references are. So we're in, we're in a. Are we in a quiet season? Is it? Is that, is, that is that season? It's like what's next? It feels quiet, but loud, it feels tender, but okay, you're trying to not wrestle with your earthly feelings and go by your feelings of fear and what's happening next and go.
Speaker 1:Well, actually, lord, I believe and I trust in you for whatever is happening, like today, a very powerful and a very almost bruising day again for British politics. Indeed, yeah, another major thing, another We've had. What did we have? We had Brexit, covid, the Queen, the King, all the stuff going on, and again Boris. And then again, today, another major marker, yeah. So I use the word atmosphere because it's an easy word to connect with. There is a lot of tenderness. So a lot of people that are very strong politically will be looking and looking at the political markets, and a lot of Christians as well. I know Christians are very politically driven. So if I keep looking at the political area and take my eyes off what Christ is doing and through Israel, I could become quite fearful. But if I keep my eyes on Israel, as in you said earlier, the clock the biblical clock ticking.
Speaker 1:And then I look at Thessalonians, I look at Revelation and the prophe yes, yeah, the biblical clock ticking. And then I look at thessalonians, I look at revelation and the prophecies for the times. I can get a bit. I can get stronger myself, because I know a lot of christians at the moment are very not not disappeared in their faith, but just like what is going on, I know, yeah, we need to be staying in in the word that's the key real death of biblical literacy, I think, amongst believers.
Speaker 2:Biblical literacy I in the word, that's the key. Real dearth of biblical literacy, I think, amongst believers biblical literacy. I love the way that people need to read the word and be in the word constantly yeah that's what life is and we've said this before.
Speaker 1:I know, we've podcast, we've we've broadcasted over this how relevant to understand what the feasts are and when they fall and what they're about. I think I think now, as we talk and as this open discussion, I honestly believe that we should maybe go back over what you brought before and just do these feasts, because I learned something today, just through you, just in this conversation Tabernacling has changed my biblical view, my understanding. Oh, that's a stronger word, stronger word than he made his dwelling among us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's a good word, but yeah, it's a good word, but it's like that word what you've told me, then what you've brought, is a very there's another interesting side to it, about the feast.
Speaker 2:This is a little more detail. So I said about the Feast of Trumpets yeah, so it's an interesting feast because traditionally it's been held over two days, so this is like the new year, right? So Yom Teruah means the day of trumpeting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Feast of Trumpets, and then more modern days.
Speaker 1:we call it Rosh Hashanah, the head of the year, the new year.
Speaker 2:Now we have four new years. Okay, passover this one and one for the trees. But don't worry about that, that's maybe us Jewish people being difficult, but anyway. So for this Rosh Hashanah, now we have electronic clocks so we know when the month's end, that sort of stuff. Now in the time of Jesus and before that and after that, we didn't have electronic clocks.
Speaker 1:That made me smile, brian. As you can see, now we have electronic clocks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do yeah, but then they didn't. So yeah. So how did they know? How did they know? Okay, right, so this is what used to happen. Was that particularly with the new year? Because this month, when the new year started, was very important to blow the trumpets at the right time for the Feast of Trumpets. But the way they would tell the month, the beginning of the month, would be it's a lunar calendar, okay, it's not like us. The day starts at midnight. The next day starts when the moon appears.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Okay, so how does that work? Well, what they used to do in those days was that they could say that the new year would start when the slither of a new moon would appear in the sky Whoa this is like.
Speaker 2:So they had to have two witnesses. Okay, two witnesses would have said they'd seen the new moon appear. They would come to the temple. On the north side of the temple would be the high priest and his council and they would examine the two witnesses together and they would say to them, first of all, if they're reliable people, who are these people, where they come from, have they got other reliable people, et cetera. And secondly, asking them about what they saw. And if the high priest and his group were happy that these were two reliable witnesses, they would say right, guys, crack out the trumpets, the shofars, let's blow.
Speaker 2:it's the new year and that's how it would be decided. So people who were, you know, were wise, because they'd have to stop the harvest then, would be thinking right, we're getting near the new year, we know it's a roundabout now, so make sure we get the harvest in, make sure we're ready for that trumpet to blow and we're down tours because it's a non-working time now. People who were silly would not be paying any attention. Then suddenly they'd hear the trumpet from the temple and get cold and think oh no, you know, I haven't got my harvest in now it's interesting.
Speaker 2:Jesus says no one. Before, when jesus was earth, he said no one knows the day or the hour, except not even the angels or me. He says the Father only knows, and he says that a couple of times he does. Now I'm not naming dates, I'm not naming times, because that's wrong and we shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:However, later on in Thessalonians, paul says you're not ignorant brothers, you know you. You know you understand the times you shouldn't be caught unawares. So it's that you know when it talks. When jesus talks about the, the sound of the trumpet and not knowing the day or the hour.
Speaker 2:I hope you can see the parallel I can again parallel between this feast where they're waiting to spot the new moon and they don't know when it's going to be, but they know it's going to be soon, and so, for believers, we will never know the exact day and the exact time, but we know when it's soon, we will understand we'll understand the season understand the times.
Speaker 2:We'll see the season. We know the time is short and so we are ready. We've done everything that god will be faithful servants. We do everything that god wants us to do, not thinking, oh, I'll sort that out later on. And then suddenly there are times you think I should put that right.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying people lose their salvation, no, no, no, although there is that aspect of those who are not believers. But actually, as believers, we should be working hard now because we see the signs, we see the times, we see that his return is near. So there's a parallel there with that feast when you don't know the day and the hour, and when jesus says you don't know the day and the hour, but paul tightens it a bit and he says come on, guys, you're not going to be caught out, you're not going to be ignorant. No, and you, you will understand. If you watch the times, you understand the times, you're prayerful, you're in the word, you will see and understand that the coming of jesus is very near that's really again, again, so that to me in picture form because that's how I learned very easy is that I have that picture.
Speaker 1:there's, there's lots of pictures out there on on the socials of, of, uh, that person blowing that shofar with the prayer shawl on, and that's a and to me that's a really interesting because as soon as you, I, I equated to that, thinking that you know the blowing of the trumpet and that, and that's so biblically relevant that we've got to keep listening, listening wise, looking at the seasons, you know, and that has fascinated me. What you've actually said also about we've got clocks, almost, because when you think about that that you can't, you could lose time, in fact, couldn't you? You could lose, like, obviously our time is governed by the millisecond and everything is so precise, everything we do is so precise. With what they were looking at, there must have been some slight movement as in because they're waiting and watching.
Speaker 1:But their whole life, their whole clock, their everything was relying on the lunar calendar yeah.
Speaker 2:Lunar calendar, yeah. So to get us around our heads, it's hard to get to hard to understand that?
Speaker 1:I'd like to. Maybe if you could explore that a bit more one time. Um, but how? How? That is so powerful that you're looking into the heavens and you're waiting for heaven to move and the creation to tell you what to do next. So the season and agriculture the lunar is very, very important to the fields of harvest, aren't they? So you're looking up, you're looking up, and that's what we should be doing for the return of Christ.
Speaker 2:Looking up, looking up, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because, the harvest time. So there is such an awakening at this moment. Let's look up. We've got to look up because the time is now the seasons, the switching of leaders, the lack of the misinterpretation of almost that you can go and do whatever you want with no consequence, and that this is real clear signalers to where we sit. So what's happening? Briefly, we've got like 10 minutes. Let's say we've got 10 minutes. What's happening quickly in Israel? What should we be looking at, thinking about what?
Speaker 2:do you see brewing Right, okay? Well, we have another election the fifth election since 2019 on the 1st of November, because the government has fallen for various reasons. So, who knows, we may have Bibi Netanyahu back as Prime.
Speaker 2:Minister, some people are dead set against that we may end up with someone else. It's all because they're looking for a king and um, god always said to them if you have a king, he's never going to be that good. You need to look to me. So that's part of shaking what's happening in israel. But there's, you know, in israel there are issues. At the moment there's probably there's lots of unrest, so there is um for various reasons, not only because we're coming up to the election yeah but amongst the arab people there there's quite a lot of unrest and there's been rioting.
Speaker 2:There's been difficulties from different parts of I'm not I mean.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. There's just minorities within the Arab world. Just what we see.
Speaker 2:That's right. Yeah, and there's been quite a lot of terrorism as well, so we've seen the rise of this new terrorist group. So you and Hamas in the Gaza Strip with the Islamic Jihad, and they don't like each other anyway, so they fight each other.
Speaker 1:They've been there almost forever, though, haven't they?
Speaker 2:That's just normal, Well they voted them in and they never left. So that's what was. And they don't care for their people? Of course they don't. And then you've got the Fatah, a Palestinian authority in the West Bank areas. It's Judea. Samaria so none of them like each other. And then you've got this new one called I think it's called the Den of Lions, I think it's a new terrorist organisation that's a powerful, that's a big title to lay with yourself.
Speaker 2:It's sort of Hamas and Fatah together separate themselves out and Israelis having two soldiers, I think, were killed last week oh, that's, so sad and there's terrorist attacks nearly every day, not so much in Israel proper but in the fringes oh it's so sad.
Speaker 2:And there's terrorist attacks nearly every day, not so much in Israel proper but in the fringes of the areas on the West Bank area, and Israel are trying to stop the terrorist cells, and then there are people shooting at the checkpoints and everything. So there is quite a degree of unrest in the country at the moment with all that going on and the political scene doesn't help it. So it's, it's it's difficult days in israel for the moment, for violence and everything, and you always wonder whether it's going to move on to something more general yeah an invitada, they call it a general uprising.
Speaker 2:And then the bedouin people, who have a wonderful heritage within that bedouin group and we feature it in our latest november report. Yeah, comes out november. There's a whole feature in the magazine, on martin's magazine. Then on on the bedroom project that we're doing to bring the gospel, um, because, um, traditionally they're tribal people and still are. They're not really indigenous because they travel, they're bedroom by the nature of who they are, but they are being infiltrated by radical islam, which is not really israel at all, you know, because they live in israel proper. It's about 300 000 of them.
Speaker 2:So, um, but I mean, that's just a quick skim, but it's in, it's in our rates report we're trying to bring the gospel sure to bed you in people, um, because it's the gospel, is the only hope really. You know, we see the unrest and if you read the book of zechariah, as you get towards the end of the book, you'll see what's going to happen in Israel and it's tragic because we know that there's going to be more and more violence. There's going to be a time of terrible persecution where many people will die, and that's sad, but that's what the book tells us is going to happen. We're heading to you know a time when Israel will suffer.
Speaker 1:And the signs, the signs, and what you very quickly skim through, the signs are ramping up daily for this process to happen, which I know what the scripture says. But then you think about, this is God's nation. There seems to be so much violence and so much uprising from day one. Yeah, yeah, it just seems to be normal, but it's been a progressive generation after generation to this big, this big, I don't know, this big, wow, and you've got the Iran problem.
Speaker 2:Of course, what's going to happen there Coming over and they overspill from the war in Ukraine yeah. And Syria is still very unstable, this alliance between Russia and Iran and nobody's really got a shot what Turkey is doing. You know who he's aligning with who he's talking to. And even recently Russia has had another go at Israel again because Israel have sided with most countries about the war in Ukraine and people talk about Gog and Magog.
Speaker 1:Is that Russia, Iran? Is that Russia and Iran? Who?
Speaker 2:knows what that is there's lots of thoughts on that.
Speaker 1:That's right. So when you look at Israel, it's tiny, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's like always, it's always got its guns out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's always like.
Speaker 1:Always protecting itself, always protecting itself Always. It's got how many people are in there. There's about 9 million people there and we've got roughly 67, 68 million here. So there's only 9 million and it feels like the eyeballs of the world are always the fists are beating, are always coming against this tiny, tiny little nation, but it's still doing what it's doing. It's still going until the scripture calls what's going to happen is going to happen.
Speaker 2:And it's very safe there. I don't want to give the impression.
Speaker 1:it's not, no, no.
Speaker 2:Because if we go in there in two weeks' time, we're out of there. That's right. And there's another side to that.
Speaker 1:It's very safe, it is yeah yeah, it's very powerful, but then you see the other side to it, which is everything we see about. It is very biblical to catch up with you and obviously we won't see you until we come back now, but we thank you so much for just bringing this and it's been a great time just to broadcast together again and to record this podcast. So, brian, how can people get a hold of you? What is the process? Where do they find you? Where are you living?
Speaker 2:Our office is in Seven Oaks in Kent. That's where we're based, but our website is maozisrael, m-a-o-z-i-s-r-a-i-l, one word, u-k. And that's our website. You'll be able to get in contact with us through there and everything.
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